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Banana Growing tips- How to grow banana. » banana shower Mar 18, 2006 09:19 AM (Total replies: 7)

I think you're crazy! ahhaa
Just kidding, very intresting idea though, how do I make reservations :-) ?

'All men dream: but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act their dream with open eyes to make it possible.' - - - T. E. Lawrence (Lawrence of Arabia)

General Discussions. » New Thread on....New Owner of a Musa Basjoo Sep 25, 2005 11:23 PM (Total replies: 36)

Hi Guys, we've been doing some hardware upgrades on the server the site is on that's why it's been acting strange, everything should be fine now. If you have anymore trouble posting let me know.

Thanks

General Discussions. » Separating newly formed banana trees Jul 10, 2005 09:01 AM (Total replies: 1)

Just use a shovel, and put it between the two and step on it. You can minimze any damage by using a hand shovel if the plants are small.

Announcements » Contacting other forum members Apr 14, 2005 12:11 PM (Total replies: 0)

Greetings everyone,
Now that we have removed everyone’s e-mail addresses from showing up in the user details. Some of you might be wondering how you contact the other members of the forum besides posting. Well the answer is "Private Message", there is a link at the top of the page that shows up AFTER you login that says "Private Messages ()", click on that you'll see that you can message forum members this way. The person your sending to should then either receive an email after you've PM'd them, or see it once they login; depending on how they’re configured.

Admin

General Discussions. » Crazy Spammers! Apr 10, 2005 09:35 AM (Total replies: 2)

bump

General Discussions. » Crazy Spammers! Apr 9, 2005 12:34 PM (Total replies: 2)

You may have noticed that we have blocked the display of email addresses if you click on
another forum member's profile. We have done this to protect you from getting any future
spam mail. The laws of this country, and rules of this forum Strictly forbid e-mail or forum soliciting.

On April, 5 at around 9:35 PM we had an incidence of SPAM being received by many of
our forum members.

We would like your help in reporting this spam to the originating party's service providers so that this spammer
will not be able to send any more spam. Below are instruction on who to send what to report this spammer.

We've been having trouble lately with a particular company SPAMing the members of this
forum, with fraudulent e-mails claiming they have plants all for $5 each, when in reality
only small selection
of their plants listed are actually that price. Also they tried to make the message
appear as though it was not from them directly, so they used a generic looking ISP email account to cover up
the fact they where sending the message.

I actually phoned the 800 I found on the spammer's site, who was responsible for sending the spam messages to everyone,

Here is how the conversation went,

Spammer: "Hello Candle supply place, how may I help you, or also "Plants Co."

Me, "Are you sending e-mail message from the address,gardner@pgrb.com ?

Spammer: Um mm... Long pause... "Oh that was my Cousin
yeah I can't really control her, she's uhhh... she's uhhh a little, I have not control over her"

Me: "If I get one more piece of junk mail from you I will be filing suit against your company, do you hear me?"

Spammer: "What are talking about, we didn't do anything illegal"

Me:, "Yes you did, you can't go someone's web site, harvest email addresses from them and send them
spam advertising a fraud!"

Spammer" Well you should go re-fresh your knowledge of the FTC e-mail rules", HANGS UP!

ME: Thinking to myself, hmmm actually I have a copy of the 2003 CAN-SPAM laws in a folder on my desktop, she
most have read a different version on a "how to spam" people site or book ? ha-ha

We would like your help in reporting this spam to the originating party's service providers so that
this spammer will not be able to send any more spam.

Please forward your message as an attachment or copy and paste all of the original headers to the following addresses,

just click the link below.

support@empiredatatech.com?bcc=abuse@pgtv.net,abuse@zoneedit.com,btreeforum@tonal.org,abuse@broadwing.com,spam@uce.gov,abuse@godaddy.com&subject=Reporting SPAM

or cut and paste these addresses to your message:

abuse@godaddy.com
spam@uce.gov
abuse@broadwing.com
abuse@zoneedit.com
abuse@pgtv.net
support@empiredatatech.com
btreeforum@tonal.org

This is how the message appeared

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FROM: gardner@(Domain blocked out).com

"Hello. I just wanted to email you and let you know of a great site to

buy tropical plants such as Banana Trees, Elephant Ears and Carnivorous Plants. The

website is (deleted to hide identity)
They have great prices (single plants are $4.95)! If you are interested I'm sure you will be happy with (deleted to hide identity) . There is a sale too: free shipping!"

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Depending on your e-mail account you can get your e-mail header information
from several different places.

In Microsoft Outlook Express, or Outlook:

1) Right Click on the message in your in box where you see all the messages listed.
2) A pop-up menu will appear, on the bottom click "Properties".
3) Now a tabbed window appears, click on the "Details" Tab at the top.
4) In the Details Tab area, click on the button on the bottom right that says,"Message Source".
5) Now right click and select all of message

If you are using Yahoo web mail account.

1) Open and view the message as you normally would.
2) Now in the upper right corner click on the link that says " Full Headers ".
3) Copy and Paste all the message details to our spam form's message body and click "send". Done!

Other E-mail like Hotmail AOL etc.

I don't have a hotmail account etc. so I can't say for sure where you find the header info, but
you should be able to look at the yahoo example above and find an equivalent button
or link to show all header info. Copy and paste whatever info you find into our form and
send it.

Thank you,
Forum Admin
Banana Tree Inc.

Announcements » Moderators Needed Mar 19, 2005 08:21 AM (Total replies: 0)

The Banana Tree's Tropical Forum is in need of forum moderators, if you are intrested email me at webmaster@tonal.org . You don't need to have moderator experince but it would be helpfull.

Thank You,
Stijn

In your email let me know

1) A little background info about yourself
2) Which forum(s) you'd be interested in moderating
3) Why you would like to be a moderator
4) Have been a moderator in another forum before?

General Discussions. » Phone Orders?? Mar 5, 2005 11:21 AM (Total replies: 1)

We ask that you place your order through our web site, our web site ordering process is secure and simple to use, your credit card will be processed just the same as if you would call or fax us anyway.
We have a strict privacy policy and will not share your information with anyone.

Banana Growing tips- How to grow banana. » Banana Growing Tip Of The Week! Nov 28, 2004 05:49 PM (Total replies: 62)

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Hi Administrator. I think that you got those facts from the Banana Tree's Web Site. Right?
--- Original message by drewr13NJ on Nov 28, 2004 05:33 PM

Yes, from our banana tips page. If you have any tip ideas feel free to post them here as well, I'm sure everyone would appreciate any tips you'd like to share!

Banana Growing tips- How to grow banana. » Banana Growing Tip Of The Week! Nov 27, 2004 08:05 PM (Total replies: 62)

Grow banana with HIGH HUMIDITY of 50% and higher is desirable. Hot, dry air will destroy the leaves.

Also understand that Because heat and humidity speeds up the process of converting starches into sugars, which ripens the fruit, bananas are carefully maintained at 58 degrees Fahrenheit and the temperature and humidity conditions are monitored which helps rippen the fruit to perfection.

Banana Growing tips- How to grow banana. » Banana topicalis Nov 24, 2004 08:06 AM (Total replies: 2)

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Anyone know anything about the cultivar Enano Gigante? I'm trying to find out what the quality of it's fruit is. Anyone..... anyone!

--- Original message by nananananananana plantman on Nov 24, 2004 12:57 AM

From what I understand Enano Gigante is delicious, creamy and vaguely similar to the store variety but smaller.

"A robust bouquet of peaches and cream, with a hint of almonds, gives this most exquisite variety not only broad leaves but also a Gigantic taste!"

General Discussions. » Banana Beer! ...Yes that's right! Nov 18, 2004 04:59 PM (Total replies: 1)

I recently came accross this most interesting description on how you can brew your own banana beer in your back yard ahhaa.

This comes from the country : Burundi Kind of funny but sound like a good time ha.

BANANA BEER

There are 2 types of banana that go into making banana beer, the igikashi and igisahira. You mix the two types togther: 1/3 of harsh tasting to 2/3 of the other variety to ensure a balanced flavour.

You start by digging a hole, like a kind of home made distilery, big enough to pile up 5 or 6 bunches of bananas picked, the banana should still be green. Now Make a fire from dried banana leaves in the hole, and line it with fresh banana leaves to stop the bunches from touching the ground. Place the bunches in the hole and cover them with more leaves and rhizomes to hold the "still" up and keep it hidden for the kids etc haha.

In about 4 - 6 days later, check the colour of the bananaers which should be now be yellowish. Peel the bananas and place them inside big mixing bin. Then knead and churn them with bundles of certain certain grasses (called ishinge, or needles) in order to extract the juice. The first banana juice, called umutobé, can be served to women and children. You should be able to fill three to four 10 litre jugs of it.

To obtain fermentation, sprinkle each jug with ground grilled sorghum that acts as yeast. Then seal the jugs using banana leaves and leave them to stand near the hearth where a small fire is kept burning for a day and a half. Then decant the beer into medium sized jugs and leave it to stand for a whole day in a cool place.

Banana juice watered down with equal proportions of water is called urwawa beer. You can dilute the first juice as much as you like, according to your taste. Honey can also be added to pure fermented banana juice to make isongo mead.

country : Burundi

course : beverage

source : Cuisines d’Afrique / A. Villers (translation at http://www.revuenoire.com/anglais/S23-4.html#Bière de bananes)

Tropical Plants News! » Montgomery Scientist Discovers New Palm Nov 17, 2004 05:15 PM (Total replies: 0)

Montgomery Scientist Discovers New Palm

Article Editor: Christopher Laird Simmons

MIAMI, FL - November 16, 2004 /Send2Press Newswire/ -- On an expedition to Brazil in 1994, Dr. Larry Noblick of the Montgomery Botanical Center in Coral Gables, Florida, discovered a previously unknown species of palm that he has named Syagrus vermicularis. Dr. Noblick's discovery was recently confirmed by his full scientific description published in the September 2004 issue of Palms, a peer-reviewed journal of the International Palm Society.

The Montgomery Botanical Center (www.montgomerybotanical.org), a nonprofit 501(c) institution, grows scientific collections of tropical plants in its botanical garden. Its plant collections include more than ten thousand palms, cycads and other tropical plants from over 30 countries. Scientists from all over the world access the Montgomery collections and its associated database, which has grown to be the largest repository of scientific documentation on palms and cycads in the world, including the most comprehensive mapping data of any botanical garden. Montgomery also operates the world's largest and most successful seed bank program.

Dr. Noblick is the Manager of Collections Development at Montgomery. He is one of the world's leading experts on palms and has led 17 scientific expeditions in South America and Asia. After Dr, Noblick returned from his expedition to Brazil in 1994 with seeds of a previously unknown palm species, Montgomery germinated the seeds in its nursery and then planted the plants in its botanical garden.

The plants grew into elegant trees with a smooth, green trunk thinly covered by a whitish velvety layer and crowned by a beautiful head of glossy, soft, pinnate leaves creating a graceful, arching canopy. In late 2003, several of the trees began to display a showy inflorescence that resembles a tangle of bright yellow noodles or worms. "At long last," exclaimed Dr. Noblick. "When I discovered the palm, I couldn't find any with female flowers. I had to wait nine years until the seeds had grown into mature plants so I could finish my scientific description of the species."

The tight squiggling noodle or worm-like form of the palm's newly emerging inflorescence is the source for the name that Dr. Noblick chose for his newly discovered palm. "I was tempted to name the species something fun like Syagrus ramennoodlensis," Dr. Noblick told us. "But after careful consideration, I opted for something that sounded a bit more sophisticated." The species was officially christened Syagrus vermicularis (Latin for "resembling a worm").

As the seeds from the collection of Syagrus vermicularis at the Montgomery Botanical Center mature, it expects to distribute them through its seed bank program. The new palm is creating a buzz for some tropical plant insiders who have been tracking its growth at Montgomery and anxiously awaiting the first seed distribution.

web graphic (c) Send2Press John DeMott, an omnipresence in both the palm and nursery worlds, predicts, "This fast-growing, medium-large palm should fill the void in the palette of palms available to the industry--and eventually the garden. From a design aspect, its dense crown of dark green fronds and relatively thin trunk places it somewhere between a Carpentaria and the queen palm."

Photo caption: Dr. Larry Noblick, palm biologist at Montgomery Botanical Center gets a close-up view of the first inflorescence of Syagrus vermicularis, a new palm species he discovered in Brazil.

Montgomery Botanical Center, 11901 Old Cutler Road, Miami, FL 33156, (M-F, 7a.m. to 3:30 p.m.).

Source of News: Montgomery Botanical Center http://www.send2press.com/PRnetwire/pr04_111602-botanical.shtml

Banana Growing tips- How to grow banana. » Minimun Temperatures for Banana's to Fruit Nov 17, 2004 11:35 AM (Total replies: 2)

I'm assuming you mean Celcius. 13-14 Celcius would be warm enough for most banana to survive the winter for sure, but as far as getting fruit as this tempatures ; unlikley. What is the day time tempature in the greenhouse? and how much sun light do they get now? Then there is the length of the day too that can infulence the plant etc.

Tropical Plants News! » Fascinating Facts, Banana Paper, history of banana ?! Nov 10, 2004 10:10 AM (Total replies: 0)

Some pretty amazing facts about bananas

Where did bananas come from?

Bananas (or the Musa species), have a long history of cultivation and have even been depicted in Indian cave paintings dating back to 500 and 600 BC. They are thought to have come to India from south-east Asia and to have been carried by traders to east Africa, transported westward to west Africa where the Portuguese took them to the Canary Islands and then to Haiti about the 15th and 16th centuries.

The fore-runners of the modern banana cultivars are thought to be the diploid bananas (bananas with 2 pairs of chromosomes) M. acuminata and M.balbisiana. Both species are seeded inedible varieties. Intra-species and finally inter-species crosses resulting in infertile seedless cultivars were selected by local inhabitants and cultivated giving us the hybrids that we have today. (Robinson, 1996).

Robinson, J.C., 1996
Bananas and Plantains
CAB International
South Africa

Origami Bananas

Did you know that the long fibres (and I do mean long - up to 5 metres) in bananas are excellent for making paper? Long fibres give paper its strength and the extremely long fibres in the banana plant can make banana fibre paper very strong. Up to 3000 times stronger than regular paper ni fact and as a renewable resource and as an adjunct for an already established industry, the prospects are very interesting.

There are talks of building a banana paper factory on the tablelands near Mareeba utilising the fibre from nearby banana plantations.

The fibre from bananas can also be used to make clothing. Banana fibre clothing is a favourite in countries such as the Philippines although they are yet to catch on here in Australia.

Banana Bandages?

In the Pacific Islands when people get burns they often use a banana leaf as treatment. Banana leaves are obviously a very convenient shape for wrapping around a limb or such, but what is very interesting is that bananas contain a marvellous substance, a surfactant, that has a particularly beneficial affect when it comes to healing burns.

http://www.abgc.org.au/pages/general/021219_175918.asp
Credit
The Australian Banana Growers Council Inc.
© 2004 All Rights Reserved

Tropical Plants News! » The Amazing Banana Nov 10, 2004 10:03 AM (Total replies: 4)

The Amazing Banana

Follow this link and read all about the different health benifits of eatin' banani' hahahaa

http://www.loveoffering.com/TheAmazingBanana.htm

Palm tree growing tips- How to grow plam trees. » What palm trees will grow in my zone 7 ? Nov 10, 2004 09:59 AM (Total replies: 4)

Cycas panzihuaensis is one of the more hardy Cycads ityou wanted to get into that, but I'm leaning towards some of the palms being hardier?

Gatherings and Meetings » Using Native non-invasive plants in the garden Nov 9, 2004 10:17 PM (Total replies: 1)

Date: November 17th, 2004 at 7 pm

Location: 1810 North Dupont Street, Wilmington, DE

Learn strategies and techniques for plant propagation, seed collecting and battling invasives and other weeds at the Delaware Center for Horticulture as Krissy Faust of Cornell Plantations presents an illustrated lecture on how to create and maintain a wildflower garden. The Hansen Lecture was named for local gardener, Dorothy Hansen, and is a special lecture presented each fall at DCH.

Hours:
7:00 p.m. to 9:00 p.m.

Admission/Fees:
DCH members: $14
Non-members: $19
Reserve by November 12th. Refreshments follow lecture.

* Reservations are required.

Type of Event: Lecture

For Further Information Contact:

Amy Foster

Delaware Center for Horticulture

Mailing Address:
1810 North Dupont Street
Wilmington, DE 19806-3308

Email: afoster@dehort.org

Phone: 302-658-6262
Fax: 302-658-6267

Tropical plants Wanted ! » Looking for Kaffir Lime Nov 9, 2004 09:53 PM (Total replies: 8)

Hi Kiyo!
I know we have have in stock HARPEPHYLLUM caffrum "Kaffir plum", did you see that? I'll do a little digging around I think I've seen "lime" around some where on another site recently.

http://www.banana-tree.com/Product_Detail~category~12.0~Product_ID~503.cfm

Banana Growing tips- How to grow banana. » Banana Growing Tip Of The Week! Nov 9, 2004 09:49 PM (Total replies: 62)

Fertilize and water

Fertilze and water your banana at about the same time with any type of balanced fertilizer to help the banana have vigrious growth durning the active growing season when conditions favor rapid growth.

Bananas are heavy feeders its' best to fertilize very lightly every time that you water with the exception being that when you don't fertilize if you are not seeing any active growth.
Use a balanced fertlizer ( Balanced fertilizer means - a fertilizer that has all 3 numbers on the label ). After initial watering we would not water again until your soil is dry to a 1/2" depth. ( Easiest to just use your finger to test the soil ). Don't expect this to be a plant that you "water once a week". Banana grow very fast and need the fuel and warmth,light and water to make it all happen, and remember to much of a good thing is a good thing with banana ahhahaa

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